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Shingen 03-11-2008 07:19 PM

The Art of War
 
Tzu Sun: The Art of War

I'm curious how many here have read this great military treatise.

With the looming American Police State, seemingly knocking down our doors, knowledge would also seem to be one of the most vital commodities to possess.

I can pretty much guarantee, that most, if not all of the "fabricators" of this "agenda" are well versed. Not the rank and file "police". They probably have little or no knowledge of this treatise, but the true instigators, most certainly.

Regardless, all the material "prep" in the world won't save us, if we don't first learn ourselves, and learn our enemy.

Still, if one has ears to hear, and eyes to see, it's a pretty good read.

Yours in Liberty.

DogFarm 03-11-2008 07:32 PM

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Read it at OCS.

Voltaire's Candide is probably a better study guide for the upcoming years in the US.

Shingen 03-11-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DogFarm (Post 1006467)
Read it at OCS.

Voltaire's Candide is probably a better study guide for the upcoming years in the US.

Yeah I agree. Voltaire is a little esoteric for most.. not that Tzu Sun is any better.

Candide is also a good read.

Yours in Liberty.

Goldfinger 03-11-2008 08:28 PM

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Excellent read!

Canadian-guerilla 03-11-2008 08:36 PM

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Excellent Book !!

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Mumwaldee 03-11-2008 10:45 PM

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drewfu 03-11-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mumwaldee (Post 1006784)
Read it often during the time I was martial arts training in Okinawa. Also Musashi's "go rin no sho" The book of the five rings.

I reference it almost daily -- Mushashi was awesome. If you've never seen the film trilogy with Toshiro Mfune I strongly recommend it. The sword fighting choreography in those films is beyond mind blowing!!!

Squirrel Bait 03-11-2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DogFarm (Post 1006467)
Read it at OCS.

Voltaire's Candide is probably a better study guide for the upcoming years in the US.

You may be right, but I think a better study of Chinese activity will be found in Tsun Tzu. The Chinese have always been very secretive in their actions as is described by Tsun Tzu. Deception and surprize are everything in war(Fortune favors the BOLD??). NO ONE expects China to attack the USA. That will be the primary reason to do it. Taiwan will be a faint, a deception. Why attack your own people if you can go to the source of your problems, making everything collapse? The current Chinese military buildup is one of the largest in modern history, and that is only what we know about. It is aimed at one country; the USA.

For those out there who haven't read Tsun Tzu I would highly recommend it.

sb

Shingen 03-12-2008 12:14 AM

Re: The Art of War
 
Go Rin no Sho

Book of Five Rings
Musashi Miyamoto

Excellent read!!

I'm humbled by the knowledge of this site..

I thought I was the only one... =P

Yours in Liberty.

Mumwaldee 03-12-2008 12:36 AM

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Shingen 03-12-2008 12:38 AM

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Sheesh..damn was trying to make a post about Mifune Toshiro...

workin' through phucking edit/delete posts..wtf?

Shingen 03-12-2008 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1006885)
You may be right, but I think a better study of Chinese activity will be found in Tsun Tzu. The Chinese have always been very secretive in their actions as is described by Tsun Tzu. Deception and surprize are everything in war(Fortune favors the BOLD??). NO ONE expects China to attack the USA. That will be the primary reason to do it. Taiwan will be a faint, a deception. Why attack your own people if you can go to the source of your problems, making everything collapse? The current Chinese military buildup is one of the largest in modern history, and that is only what we know about. It is aimed at one country; the USA.

For those out there who haven't read Tsun Tzu I would highly recommend it.

sb

Actually, what you saying is PROPHESY. Plain and simple. Anyone who bothers to study ACTUAL HISTORY is hard pressed to refute the obvious.

Marxist/Lennist ideologies, actual history.

Programmed and actuated for the last 40 years...

Think Red Dawn.

But instead of the Russian "Soviets", you get the Chinese "Soviets".

However..major problem...

The FEW can only SUBJUGATE the MANY through IGNORANCE.

China is changing. QUICKLY.

America is changing. QUICKLY.

FREE YOUR MIND.

It ain't gonna stay a Dog and Pony show for long...

When America awakens, they will rouse a Sleeping Dragon!

Just as Nippon learned, the GOVERNMENT is NOT THE DRAGON!

It's the PEOPLE.

RiverRat 03-12-2008 03:56 AM

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:rolleyes_m: Yes,I've read it and the ideology is sound,but somewhat inapplicable to our current state of warfare technology.

Now one man could launch a biological or nuclear weapon to wipe out a billion people with his/her Blackberry while enjoying a coffee at Starbucks...so rhetoric aside,the art and theory of ancient warfare and philosophy counts for squat.Sun Tzu didn't have access to the technology and weapons to literally destroy an entire planet if he got POed.

Don't misconstrue my attitude...Eastern philosophy is much more subtle and practical than Western ideology which is quite young by comparison.
Sun Tzu will always be one of my favorites...quite a deep thinker to be admired.

The Greek classics are more tongue in cheek...aimed at the intellectual crowd.
Not a lot of practical warfare theory there....but still interesting.

:rolleyes_m::rolleyes_m::rolleyes_m:


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